Madder and Madder.

I'm still hoping for a good red, though one informant has suggested that this is really only possible with Turkish-grown Madder, which is embargoed to me because the plant source has to be locally-grown. That's life! I followed Jenny Dean's instructions carefully, pouring boiling stare on the roots and straining it off after a couple of unites (twice) to take away the orange pigment, then simmering the roots for twenty minutes and dyeing with the liquor. I've made two lovey toning groups of brighter and more muted rusty-orange, but no sight at all of red!